The Sauce with Maya Gurantz and Rebecca Cohen

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Maya and Rebecca ride the down elevator into Apple TV’s hit Severance. Identity. Work-life balance. Bullshit jobs. Setting good boundaries. The toxic rot and unremitting evil at the very heart of Capitalism. Is this show hitting the BIG GESTALT BUTTON of THIS MOMENT?

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As Trump deploys National Guard and Marines to LA in the face of widespread civilian protests against ICE raids, we talk Martial Law and autocratic use of force (and drink!) with Dr. Carrie Lee, an expert in civil-military relations who concisely breaks down the specifics of what we should be looking for in this Administrations’s language and actions: why to worry, why to be hopeful, and what to do next.

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With Trump and Musk trampling American democracy, why aren’t elected Democrats doing more to stop the carnage? Maya and Rebecca piece together why the opposition party can’t seem to get its shit together and draw unexpected insight from the Drake and Kendrick Lamar feud to figure out what Democrats should be doing differently,

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Let’s ruin the Great American Novel. Maya and Rebecca are joined by Artist (and longtime Sauce listener!) Marcus Kwame Anderson and writer David F. Walker to discuss their new book– Big Jim and the White Boy, an audacious (and inspired) retelling of Huck Finn. Listeners may remember Marcus and David from the last time we spoke about their Eisner Award-winning The Black Panther Party: A Graphic Novel History. In this episode, we dig into the question of what gets revealed when difficult histories get told by different main characters.

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How are we going to survive the fascist takeover of our government? Through a delicate balance of activism and avoidance. Maya and Rebecca introduce a new ongoing feature, BREAD AND CIRCUSES with Cirque du Soleil’s insane Michael Jackson show, and unpack what it teaches us about how to make a spectacle out of a very bad man. Wait, I thought we were trying to do denial?

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After a nice long stretch of denial, Maya and Rebecca dip our toes back into political waters with Very Special Guests Guy Branum and Grace Freud, who bring queer and trans perspectives to the transphobic messaging the Trump campaign relied on so heavily this past election season. Why was it so effective? How did it connect to anti-immigration messaging? Is there any good way to respond to these right wing demonologies?

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Welp, America has chosen fascism. But the rejection of liberal democracy didn’t start with Donald Trump; it’s been taking shape for decades. Maya and Rebecca sort out how things went so horribly wrong, both this election cycle and over the last 40 years of American politics. Is our political system broken? And what do we do now?

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So we’re all freaking out in this final stretch before Election Day 2024. Rebecca and Maya revisit our episode on the Trump Cult from four years ago, recorded right before Biden’s inauguration, which we then thought—perhaps naively—would be the last one we’d have to do. We listen to it again and ask: why are we still here?— finding answers in Trump’s Nazi Rally at Madison Square Garden, Steve Hassan’s BITE Model of authoritarian control, and the basement incels who’ve grown up and now gotten jobs in the Republican Party.

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On the one hand, a demented felon on a cross country tour, swaying and screaming nonsense into the void. But on the other hand–wait, HOW IS THERE ANOTHER HAND? Rebecca and Maya assess Trump’s increasingly fascist language, rapidly deteriorating coherence, and try to wrap our heads around how this can even be close. And the JD Vance Self Owns JUST KEEP COMING.

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We all know Trump is a fascist, but lately he and JD Vance have taken it to a whole new level. Maya and Rebecca break down the unvarnished neo-Nazi talking points in their recent rhetoric and ponder the question: Is white nationalism really an effective campaign strategy?

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What did we want to see in last week’s Debate between TFG and VP Harris? Nothing that would make us want to puke. Maya and Rebecca talk about the impossibility of debating Trump, the things Kamala actually made possible, and whether our brains have been too broken by all of this to even see clearly anymore. And the JD Vance self-owns JUST KEEP COMING.

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JD Vance and Tim Walz represent a stark contrast in not just donut-ordering skills, but also performances of masculinity. Maya and Rebecca compare the drastically different representations of maleness embodied by each VP candidate, uncovering what their rhetoric and political philosophies reveal about their attitudes toward gender roles, and examining how it all connects to right wing attacks against Walz and why they just keep failing.

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As the DOJ indictments on Russian interference in right wing media and politics begin rolling out this week, Maya and Rebecca thought it would be a good time to share this episode about the changing roles Russia has played and continues to fill in the American cultural imagination.